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Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? Us?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:57 pm    Post subject: Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? Us?     Bookmark and Share Reply with quote

Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? Us?

By Steven Plaut
September 2003


Say What? Anti-Semites? Who, us anti-Zionists? US? We have
nothing against Jews as such. We just hate Zionism and Zionists. We think
Israel does not have a right to exist. But that does not mean we have
anything against Jews as such. Heavens to Mergatroyd. Marx Forbid. We
are humanists. Progressives. Peace lovers.

Anti-Semitism is the hatred of Jews. Anti-Zionism is opposition to
Zionism and Israeli policies. The two have nothing to do with one
another. Venus and Mars. Night and Day. Trust us.

Sure, we think the only country on the earth that must be annihilated
is Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

Sure, we think that the only children on earth whose being blown up is
ok if it serves a good cause are Jewish children. But that does not mean
we have anything against Jews as such.

Sure we think that if Palestinians have legitimate grievances this
entitles them to mass murder Jews. But that does not mean we have anything
against Jews as such.

Naturally, we think that the only people on earth who should never
be allowed to exercise the right of self-defense are the Jews. Jews should
only resolve the aggression against them through capitulation, never
through self-defense. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews
as such.

We only denounce racist apartheid in the one country in the Middle
East that is NOT a racist apartheid country. But that does not mean we
have anything against Jews as such.

We refuse to acknowledge the Jews as a people, and think they are
only a religion. We do not have an answer to how people who do NOT
practice the Jewish religion can still be regarded as Jews. But that does
not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think that all peoples have the right to self-determination,
except Jews, and including even the make-pretend Palestinian
"people". But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We hate it when people blame the victims, except of course when
people blame the Jews for the jihads and terrorist campaigns against
them. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think the only country in the Middle East that is a fascist
anti-democratic one is the one that has free elections. But that does not
mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We demand that the only country in the Middle East with free speech,
free press, or free courts be destroyed. But that does not mean we have
anything against Jews as such.

We oppose military aggression, except when it is directed at
Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We really understand suicide bombers who murder bus loads of Jewish
children and we insist that their demands be met in full. But that does
not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think the only conflict on earth that must be solved through
dismembering one of the parties to that conflict is the one involving
Israel. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We do not think that Jews have any human rights that need to be
respected and especially not the right to ride a bus without being
murdered. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

There are Jewish leftist anti-Zionists and we consider this proof
that anti-Zionists could not possibly be anti-Semitic. Not even the ones
who cheer when Jews are mass murdered. These are the only Jews we think
need be acknowledged or respected. But that does not mean we have anything
against Jews as such.

We do not think murder proves how righteous and just the cause of the
murderer is, except when it comes to murderers of Jews. But that does not
mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We do not think the Jews are entitled to their own state and must
submit to being a minority in a Rwanda-style "bi-national state", although
no other state on earth, including the 22 Arab countries, should be
similarly expected to be deprived of its sovereignty. But that does not
mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We think that Israel's having a Jewish majority and a star on its
flag makes it a racist apartheid state. We do not think any other country
having an ethnic-religious majority or having crosses or crescents or
"Allah Akbar" on its flag is racist or needs dismemberment. But that does
not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We condemn the "mistreatment" of women in the only country of the
Middle East in which they are not mistreated. But that does not mean we
have anything against Jews as such.

We condemn the "mistreatment" of minorities in the only country in
the Middle East in which minorities are NOT brutally suppressed and mass
murdered. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We demand equal citizen rights, which is why the only country in the
Middle East in need of extermination is the only one in which they
exist. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

We have no trouble with the fact that there is no freedom of religion
in any Arab countries. But we are mad at hell at Israel for violating
religious freedom, and never mind that we are never quite sure where or
when it does so. But that does not mean we have anything against Jews as
such.

So how can you possibly say we are anti-Semites? We are simply
anti-Zionists. We seek peace and justice, that's all. And surely that
does not mean we have anything against Jews as such.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 8:10 am    Post subject:     Bookmark and Share Reply with quote

talk about hitting the nail on the head. if i hear one more person say oh it's not jews i hate it's just zionists, i will be sick. it's just another politically correct way it.if it looks like a duck.....[/b]
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[quote="shells"]talk about hitting the nail on the head. if i hear one more person say oh it's not jews i hate it's just zionists, i will be sick. it's just another politically correct way to say it.if it looks like a duck......
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 8:33 am    Post subject: Good to see you here, Shells!     Bookmark and Share Reply with quote

Hi, Shells; Elisheba = Sweet Complication!

I note you are having a bit of difficulty with the way to post things as you want them to appear on the thread...it is quite different from those of an MSN group, so please check out the FAQ and, if those don't help, please PM me and let me help you with this type of posting. Okay?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Good to see you here, Shells!     Bookmark and Share Reply with quote

Elisheba wrote:
Hi, Shells; Elisheba = Sweet Complication!

I note you are having a bit of difficulty with the way to post things as you want them to appear on the thread...it is quite different from those of an MSN group, so please check out the FAQ and, if those don't help, please PM me and let me help you with this type of posting. Okay?

See you on the "other" boards! Shana Tova...


LOL - look at the correction from the "expert" - hoist by my own petard, so to speak! Embarassed Laughing Laughing Embarassed Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 1:48 pm    Post subject:     Bookmark and Share Reply with quote

I found that one tremenduous. The message must be
clear to any feebleminded. But again , you never know
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:31 pm    Post subject: Yes, the article is even more than tremendous, my friend!     Bookmark and Share Reply with quote

Another example: It is almost one year since they beheaded Daniel Pearl, one of the so-called "good" Jews. Of course it had nothing to do with his being a Jew. Please recall that on their final tape, Mr. Pearl said:

My Mother is a Jew
My Father is a Jew
I am a Jew

Then, they beheaded Daniel Pearl.

"And surely that does not mean we have anything against Jews as such."
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 2:08 pm    Post subject: Oh, Brother!     Bookmark and Share Reply with quote

Oh, Brother!

At the end of the day you come home and your Father asks you:

Father: Where is your brother Jacob?
You: He is still fighting with Ishmael.

Father: All by himself?
You: I couldn’t help him, I got hurt as well.

Father: And why do you think it happened?
You: I befriended Ishmael and he turned against me.

Father: Didn’t your brother warn you?
You: Yeah, but I am the strongest and have obligation to bring humanity to the world.

Father: Wasn’t it your brother Jacob who taught you about humanity?
You: Yeah, but he himself wouldn’t share his room with Ishmael.

Father: You let Ishmael into your room, is he playing nicely? You wouldn’t let your roommates take over your room?
You: But Jacob has to share his room with Ishmael.

Father: You are saying it to Me? You need to reread the House-Rules Script.
You: Why it always has to be about Jacob?

Father: He is the oldest son and my right hand, he helps me to bring up all of you.
You: Then why don’t You help him?

Father: Jacob has not completely grown up into his role yet; he still tries to shy away or blend with the crowd. But have you noticed that all the guys who managed to hurt Jacob are not around anymore?
You: I am not anti-Semite, I have few Jewish friends.

Father: Are you helping Jacob wholeheartedly like he is helping you, or do you mostly tie his hands when he takes a beating?
You: I have to build a peace coalition.

Father: I guess you have not learned your lesson yet. If only you were sensitive to your brother’s needs, maybe you wouldn’t have to build peace coalition. Maybe then the financial blood-life of terrorism would be cut off a long time ago and Jacob could take measures discouraging fighting.


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From the Nefesh's article on Hebrew History:

... In 1840 Turks officially settled 46,000 foreigners to farm their great tracts and strip the forests for lumber. In Constantinople, the Ottoman Sultan decreed Jews were forbidden to enter Israel and those already there were prevented from purchasing state land - %85 of the total area of Israel. During the next 80 years, the Turks brought in 440,000 Arabs to populate the area for imperialist purposes.

In 1920, the British obtained Israel from the defeated Turks, acting as trustees under the League of Nations Mandate. In 1934, 36,000 Syrians were admitted without passports. Secret British documents recently declassified acknowledge masses of Arabs were illegally imported. Yet the White Paper of 1939 severely restricted the immigration of Jews because "the land couldn't absorb them" From 1924 to 1947, the British secretly brought in 440,000 Arabs from Jordan, Syria, Egypt and Lebanon, Iraq and Arabia in trains, trucks and on foot to ensure an Arab Majority when the Mandate expires. According to the CIA, the British Secret Services smuggled in terrorists, weapons, and agent provocateurs to incite and murder Jews in an attempt to destabilize, discredit and discourage the Zionist establishment...During the Holocaust, the British army in Israel fired on ships bringing Jews form Europe, and set them back to the Nazi inferno. At the same time the British secretly smuggled in 200,000 Arabs. The land cleared by pioneers for their brethren in Europe was stolen by these illegal Arab "immigrants." Of the 1,303,000 Arabs living in Israel West Bank and Gaza in 1947, a total of 1,000,000 were either illegally brought in or born to those brought in, after the start of Zionist development in 1882. And the majority of the remaining 300,000 were descendants of the Arabs who had been settled by the Turks. In 1948, the UN classified as "refugees" Arabs who had lived in Israel for two years. Arabs came to Israel either to make a buck or as part of British policy to stop the establishment of the Jewish state. They were not an indigenous population!
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